This question is why I like to read R %26amp; S. It is a good question couched in friendly wit that has almost any combination of rational thoughts as possible answers.
If you care to make an argument against free will or karma I can think of no better example to use than Jesus. If you could prove either it would break a lot more things then just my little piece of reality I think.
I think it is karma - but that you and I are just using different words to say the same thing if I call it ';God's will';. Maybe my interpretation of the words is just too broad though.:)If Jesus killed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season, is it karma that he died nailed to a dead tree?
Every time Jesus taught something it was in the form of an allegory. Jesus is using this illustration to point out the fact that God was going to judge Israel.
First, he is predicting that he would cleanse the temple when he drove out the money-changers and those who sold sacrificial animals to pilgrims at inflated prices.
Second, he was predicting the destruction of Israel and the Temple in 60AD. It also indicates that the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem will no longer be a goal of redemptive history.
The allusion to fig trees was often used as a symbol of judgment of Jerusalem and was used in Jeremiah (Jeremiah 24) in this way.If Jesus killed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season, is it karma that he died nailed to a dead tree?
Cute! :)
And funny how these Xians on here don't know their bible, say they never heard of Jesus killing a fig tree or the verses wherein it says Jesus was killed by being hung on a tree. Funny, but not at all unexpected.
~Atheist, ex-fundie-Xian, former New Ager
Jesus created the tree in the first place. Is it karma that Jesus was created from a tree? That sounds kind of stupid doesn't it? Why doesn't the karma theory hold here?
You sinned and Jesus died for you. Were is the karma there?
I am not religious at all but why do you have to criticize others beliefs. I get sick of people trying to convince me to believe in something but I also hate when people bash others for their beliefs grow up little man.
That was symbolic of Jesus cutting ';christians'; off that aren't bearing fruit for the Kingdom of God.
Right from the beginning Jesus was telling His disciples that He would be killed and rise up on the third day.
What karma resurrected Him, if any?
Ha. Yes, yes it is. If he hadn't killed that fig tree...
Thanks Salvatore, Happy Litha/Yule - depending on which hemisphere you live in. =]
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!
yes.
If you will have no part of the plan that you were created for - you will wither and die apart from Him as well.
Merry CHRISTmas!
you poor souls must REALY be tormented inside. Especially THIS time of year.
He got what he deserved for being a hypocrite.
Karma doesnt work on Jesus, he was sent to die on the cross intentionally by God.
Haha, nice.
I have never heard him killing a f*ag tree..
Haha! Maybe :]
:X
no there's no such thing as karma
Hmmmmm...............that's funny
Haha... no
nope. It was planned out by Him already.
Lol! Yes, it is - ah, the irony makes me smile :)
Mark S - What do you think wooden crosses are made out of?
lame
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